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Pick a Part Rockcrawler?
01/09/08 at 02:05:47
 
A friend just bought a 88 yj with no engine-trans-case, dana 30 front(good), 35 rear(trashed), 3inch lift springs, 1 inch motor mounts and front shackle reverse. Jeep also has a full cage installed. He is looking to make a Tellico thrash mobile and make it as low buck as possible. (HA!!..HA!!). Here is what we were thinking since we have located the parts already.
 
97 4.0 six with 91 through 93 FI
727 with np 208 case. Out of 91 Grand Wagoneer (already has fixed yoke)
Dana 44 front out of Wagoneer
AMC 20 out of Wagoneer or...GULP.. a gm 12 bolt. Both have six lug
spring over conversion to run 35 inch tires
 
He also wants 4.56 or 4.88 gears and lockers for both axles and will purchse them. So what do you think? What flexplate would I need to mate the engine to transmission. A 4.2 auto? We have also thought about using a cherokee 4.0 auto and 231 but wanted to avoid using the TCM controlled Trans. Also the 727 is stronger and shorter. Tell me how you feel.  Thanks James
 
 
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Re: Pick a Part Rockcrawler?
Reply #1 - 01/13/08 at 23:05:41
 
Is a 727/208 combo getting pretty long for a Wrangler?
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1983 AMC Eagle 4.2L BW T5
1986 AMC Eagle 4.2L Auto (Parts)
1991 Ford Mustang GT 5.0L BW WC-T5
1998 Chevy S10 2.2L NV 3550
1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0L AW AX15 (16.6 @ 81)
2001 Chevy S10 2.2L NV 3550
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Re: Pick a Part Rockcrawler?
Reply #2 - 01/14/08 at 02:18:52
 
That is a good question. I have not measured the 727/np208 combo but it does not appear to be as long as the AW4/np231  used in the cherokee. Another plus is that the frame has extensions welded on the rear to run Dodge truck springs. It also retains the factory spring points. If we run the Dodge springs it will give us a few more inches of wheelbase and rear driveshaft length. Our resons for using the 727/np208 are strength, fixed output yoke, and price ($125 from pull-a-part). Would a 23 spline TC998 out of an Eagle connected to a fixed yoke NP231  be shorter and a better choice?   Thanks James
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Reply #3 - 01/19/08 at 20:42:13
 
Sorry, no idea on that one. My Eagle is a T5 so I can't even measure it to give ya an answer.
 
Sounds like a cool project though. Good luck!
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1983 AMC Eagle 4.2L BW T5
1986 AMC Eagle 4.2L Auto (Parts)
1991 Ford Mustang GT 5.0L BW WC-T5
1998 Chevy S10 2.2L NV 3550
1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0L AW AX15 (16.6 @ 81)
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Re: Pick a Part Rockcrawler?
Reply #4 - 04/27/08 at 02:20:51
 
If you plan on using the fuel injection your going to need the matched flexplate for the crank sensor to read off of.  And the crank sensor mounts in the trans bellhousing...
 
The fuel injection can be made to work with trans swaps, it's just more involved.  Mopar Performance used to sell a crank trigger setup, but now you're starting to talk money.
 
Good Luck
 
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Reply #5 - 04/30/08 at 04:03:43
 
The problem with an automatic is that it puts constant power to the axles when in drive. When you have low gears even with disk brakes this can sometimes lead to less than adequate downhill braking. I have ran pinion brakes and disk brakes. I am building with mogs now and will most likely run them both. I am running corvete 4 piston calipers on the wheel and maxima emergency brake calipers on the pinion brakes. I wheel like a mad man and I really need the braking power.
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