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Steve Avery
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Re: 71 TA Javelin Article
Reply #15 - 02/23/10 at 17:52:50
 
Here are interesting reads the first with pn's about the brakes- Imagine the way the Javelins are outfitted now are later configurations though what you can see through the spokes in the wheel pic I took looks similar to the period photos. If they were outfitted with the British Girling calipers they were acknowledged as being the calipers of choice during that time for race cars.
References Donohue's 'Unfair Advantage' and the team selection of Girling calipers:
http://www.transamcars.com/content/01/1brakes.pdf
 
Check out the '71 917K specs:
http://www.cknet.org.uk/html/specification.asp
 
Similar caliper on the Penske /Donohue Ferrari 512M racecar:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/106426,11198,0,0/photo.aspx
 
Another reference to Girling brakes on the 917 halfway down the page- April 1970:
http://www.cknet.org.uk/html/evolution.asp
 
Hinting at the universality of Girling brakes- paragraph 10:
http://ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_0303.shtml
 
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Reply #16 - 02/23/10 at 18:10:35
 
Quote from klvn8r on 02/23/10 at 17:27:59:
I'm pretty sure that the 70 Javelins ran Girling brakes, which may or may not have been what Porsche used, but in 1970/71 Penske was also racing the Ferrari 512, not the Panzer of 73.  I think the Porsche brakes went on the NASCAR Matador (the FIRST Nascar to use 4 wheel discs!).  I still can't believe that the restorer of the 70 car went with 5 lug wheels.....big error in my opinion.  embarrassed  (good pic, Steve).
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I posted without seeing your post. Most of the references I cited tend to support the 917 connection. The Donohue book ( haven't read in 9 years- so can't recall specifics ) apparently confirms this.
  Saw the Matador bit online and it reminded me of past reads- once again Penske/AMC in racing circles setting precedents.
  I think all the TA cars running in the historical race series that Javelin GT, I , and others have attended use configurations that were more or less the ultimate embodiment of period TA rules- hence the 5 lugger Minilites and the '68 Kaplan car running some '70 updates if I recall comments you or someone else mentioned a year or so ago. The Minilite 4's were cooler and would match all the Tigers and  Italian exotica running 4 luggers. In the case of the TA Javelins they all seem also to be in "factory" Kaplanesque or Penske paint spec. Would be cool to see the RWR Jav(s) in the yellow n' black livery.
 
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Reply #17 - 02/24/10 at 13:48:59
 
Talked to a guy who runs a die cast collectable shop near my home a few years back who worked at Lime Rock in the 70's. He's said one year the were giving away glass top coffee tables with Mini Lite wheels as the base. Apparently they were wheels Penske ordered and were drilled wrong, or had the wrong offset?! I don't know if there is any truth to this but, the guys says he has one of the tables!!!
 
Also, went to Lime Rock for the Trans Am reunion run in 05 or 06'. Spoke to Mike Joy(Nascar announcer) who was driving one of the RWR Javelins. He said it was very easy to drive the Javelin, and he could enter the corners much "hotter" than the other cars because of the braking capabilities!  
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Reply #18 - 03/16/10 at 13:11:26
 
Here is a short film from youtube. First scene shows 4 lug wheels on 1970 Penske Javelin!!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPW1Zoy-e-8
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