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What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
09/02/10 at 03:20:57
 
I need to know what rearends would be under my 1965 Classic 770(232), and a 1969 Rambler(199, no other info available).  It`s mostly for parts interchange type info.
 
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1965 Rambler Classic 770, 232, auto
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #1 - 09/02/10 at 10:44:59
 
assuming the 69 rambler is an American, it would have leaf springs, open conventional driveshaft, a 56 inch drum to drum width, spring perches 44 inches apart, may be 44 and a half so measure first, but that is what my 66 has.  Pretty sure the rear axle would be an AMC15.  For reference an early AMX/Javelin is about 58 inches wide.  Pretty sure the spring perch width is the same on most all of them, so if you set the AMC15 up for the 232 and decide to put a 360 in later, an AMC 20 bolts right in.  Pretty sure Frank Swygert has done the torque tube to leaf spring conversion, you might send him a PM.
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #2 - 09/02/10 at 17:41:28
 
I assumed the American as well, when I did a parts look up for a `69, all that came up were Rambler, Rebel, and Ambassador.....
I still need to know what rearend I have now(`65 Classic).  I meant more like what parts off his rear end will bolt on to mine.  Oh, and I won`t be putting in a v8 later, I plan to stay with either this six, or a 258 or 4.0.
 
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1965 Rambler Classic 770, 232, auto
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #3 - 09/02/10 at 19:15:30
 
I'm thinking you have an AMC15, I have a car that has one out of Concord stuffed under it.  My assumption is that all the internals from pretty much any 6 cylinder are the same.  But rear axles are very robust, and I can't imagine that you would need to do anything to the rear end that is in the car now.  Have you identified a problem, or are you looking to upgrade it just on general principles?  If it doesn't have a lot of backlash its probably fine.  Another bit of info that would help is how wide is it from brake drum to brake drum.  
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #4 - 09/03/10 at 04:06:27
 
I finally got to go check my car, it`s an amc 20, just as first thought Wink
 
I was more hoping it would be the same so that I could grab some parts(without taking the whole axle), for a torque tube to open conversion.  I would discuss it more but it`s already got its own thread.  And no replys embarrassed
 
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Jake
 
Oh, almost forgot, I got conformation that the `69 has an open driveline.
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1965 Rambler Classic 770, 232, auto
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #5 - 11/12/10 at 11:15:26
 
Not sure what you are doing but just because you have two "AMC 20" rears, dont assume they have the same parts.  A torque tube ring and pinion is different than a open driveline ring and pinion.  Please get a TSM and you will see.
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #6 - 11/12/10 at 20:18:06
 
CLASSIC 777   I have the  rear end assy you need to adapt  AMC 20 to Classic...
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Re: What rearends, `65 Classic, `69 Rambler?
Reply #7 - 11/16/10 at 01:22:08
 
All big cars (Classic/Ambo/Rebel/Matador) used the AMC 20 with the 232 or larger engine. The 196 was used in pre 65 models with AMC 15, and the 199 was used in some fleet models with AMC 15 (VERY rare today!!). All other cars used the AMC 15 with any size six, AMC 20 with all V-8s.  
 
The AMC 20 ring gear is the same for all, as are the other internal parts. The pinion gear is different though  (doesn't really matter since the ring and pinion are a matched set). There is no hole drilled in the end of the shaft to retain a yoke. Torque tube models used a slip on coupling. I'm not sure if the diameter and splines are the same on torque tube and open model pinion shafts or not. Would be hard to drill and tap the end of the hardened pinions shaft even if they are. Length might be an issue as well.
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