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American Conversion  T-10 Trans To T-5 Ford T (Read 1796 times)
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American Conversion  T-10 Trans To T-5 Ford T
01/07/11 at 20:02:01
 
Rambler American Conversion  
T-10 Trans To T-5 Ford Trans

 
Parts Needed:
 
Quantity      Part      Part #      Year and Make      Supply      Cost $            
1      Pilot Bushing      14675      1979 Amc spirit V8      Advance auto      $2.99            
1      Throw out bearing      614115      1979 Amc Spirit      Bumper to bumper      $25.00            
1      Clutch Disc      049040-150      Ford mustang      summet/hayes      $98.00            
1      Bell housing + fork      AMC      1977-1983 SX4-Jeep      E- Bay- Junk-Yard      $100.00            
1      Motor Mount      2530622530      !989-1993 Mustang      Auto Zone      $24.00            
1      Cross Member      AMC      1966-1969  American      Jim Hanna      $150.00            
1      Trans Yoke      7528494      28-spline-1310U-Joint Mustang      http://DennysDriveshaft.com      $59.95            
2      U-Joints Spicer      5-278x      1966-1974-AMC V8      Gear-Works      $36.00      Each      
1      Drive Shaft      1310-size      49" Center To Center Of Trunions      Pyramid Auto      $98.00            
1      clutch pilot tool      14519      1987-1993-V/8 Mustang      Auto Zone      $4.99            
1      T-5 Transmission      Ford      1993-World-Class Ford Mustang      Man-Trans Tall, FL.      $740.00            
1      Hurst Stick      5380015      Replacement Stick add 2" to Bottom      Summit Racing      $66.00            
1      AMC Bell housing      3229127 c.f.      1979-1983 Sprit-Concord-SX-4      E-bay-AMC-Swap meet      $100.00            
                                         
 
Additional Instructions (these instructions are for a Rambler American 1966-1969 ONLY)
 
Ř      Original clutch adjusting rod must be cut 1-1/2" to 2" shorter because of shorter bell housing.                  
Ř      Bearing retainer must be cut to a total length of  3 3/4" total length, measure from front of transmission to end of bearing retainer.
Ř      If there is a radius at the beginning of the retainer it must be machined off which will give you extra clutch free play travel.
Ř      The replacement Hurst stick should have a 2" piece added to the bottom as it is a bit short. This will give you the proper height inside
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
  
  
 
        
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: American Conversion  T-10 Trans To T-5 Ford T
Reply #1 - 01/26/11 at 14:19:27
 
Make sure you get the right bellhousing!!!  
 
I believe there are a minimum of three variations of the AMC/ T-5 bellhousing available.  These units were used in 1976 & up 6-cylinder engine Spirits and Jeeps fitted with a non-World Class T-5 transmission.  The Spirit’s bellhousing is the easiest to use.  It bolts up to 6 and 8 cylinder engines, because all AMC engines since 1970 moved the starter to the passenger side of the car use the same bellhousing bolt pattern. These bellhousings use a rectangular throwout bearing fork boot that is still available.  The mechanical clutch bellcrank bolts to two 5/16” x 18 bolts in the bellhousing.  There are only two tapped holes this size in the bellhousing, so it should be foolproof.
 
The second bellhousing I identify by the square throwout bearing fork boot hole. The throwout fork comes out of this bellhousing with the throwout fork at the bottom of the square boot opening. The square throwout bearing fork boot is no longer available.  An 1/8” thick piece of aluminum welded in the top of this opening will allow use of the available rectangular boot.  Make the vertical dimension 2.1” and the boot will fit nicely.  Everything else is the same as the first bellhousing.
 
The third bellhousing also has the the square throwout fork boot opening.  The problem is these bellhousings used hydraulic throwout fork actuation.  I have not done a hydraulic fork T-5 installation.  The way to identify these bellhousings is the throwout fork comes out of the bellhousing at the top of the square boot opening.  If you have to make the square boot hole smaller in the bottom of the opening to use the available rectangular boot this confirms it is a hydraulic unit.  Although the mechanical clutch bellcrank bolts up to this bellhousing, the free play adjustment shaft is at a 35 degree up angle to the throwout fork and it will quickly destroy the throwout bearing and the transmission bearing snout.  I don’t recommend using this bellhousing unless you are going to use hydraulic clutch actuation.
 
When shopping at a show for bellhousings, take the FORD World Class T-5 transmission bolt pattern punched in a piece of corrugated box to verify the pattern.  I have come across several bellhousings with the T-15 bolt pattern tapped and the T-5 bolt pattern drilled, but not tapped.  These bellhousings are usually much cheaper than those with the tapped T-5 bolt pattern.
 
AMC bellhousings have a smaller hole than the T-5 World Class front bearing retainer outside diameter.  A lot of people recommend cutting the OD of the bearing retainer smaller to fit the AMC non-World Class bellhousing hole.  I disagree about cutting the transmission’s snout OD.  I think it is better to cut the bellhousing opening to match the FORD World Class T-5 size and no more cutting will be required if you ever have to replace the T-5 transmission with another one.  
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Re: American Conversion  T-10 Trans To T-5 Ford T
Reply #2 - 01/26/11 at 17:14:46
 
Quote from v8rogue on 01/07/11 at 20:02:01:
Rambler American Conversion
T-10 Trans To T-5 Ford Trans


Parts Needed:

Quantity Part Part # Year and Make Supply Cost $
1 Pilot Bushing 14675 1979 Amc spirit V8 Advance auto $2.99
1 Throw out bearing 614115 1979 Amc Spirit Bumper to bumper $25.00
1 Clutch Disc 049040-150 Ford mustang summet/hayes $98.00
1 Bell housing + fork AMC 1977-1983 SX4-Jeep E- Bay- Junk-Yard $100.00
1 Motor Mount 2530622530 !989-1993 Mustang Auto Zone $24.00
1 Cross Member AMC 1966-1969  American Jim Hanna $150.00
1 Trans Yoke 7528494 28-spline-1310U-Joint Mustang http://DennysDriveshaft.com $59.95
2 U-Joints Spicer 5-278x 1966-1974-AMC V8 Gear-Works $36.00 Each
1 Drive Shaft 1310-size 49" Center To Center Of Trunions Pyramid Auto $98.00
1 clutch pilot tool 14519 1987-1993-V/8 Mustang Auto Zone $4.99
1 T-5 Transmission Ford 1993-World-Class Ford Mustang Man-Trans Tall, FL. $740.00
1 Hurst Stick 5380015 Replacement Stick add 2" to Bottom Summit Racing $66.00
1 AMC Bell housing 3229127 c.f. 1979-1983 Sprit-Concord-SX-4 E-bay-AMC-Swap meet $100.00


Additional Instructions (these instructions are for a Rambler American 1966-1969 ONLY)

Ř Original clutch adjusting rod must be cut 1-1/2" to 2" shorter because of shorter bell housing.
Ř Bearing retainer must be cut to a total length of  3 3/4" total length, measure from front of transmission to end of bearing retainer.
Ř If there is a radius at the beginning of the retainer it must be machined off which will give you extra clutch free play travel.
Ř The replacement Hurst stick should have a 2" piece added to the bottom as it is a bit short. This will give you the proper height inside

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