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Reply #45 - 01/15/12 at 05:31:02
 
Now they are in the car they dont look so bad, If you have access to a torch you could heat up that one tube and pull it away from the oil pan. The bottom of the bellhousing could be clearanced just enough to get that drain plug out, but  changing out to a scattershield is a good idea not to mention piece of mind. To answer your question, the stock TO fork and linkage can be used with a scattershield with an adjustable pivot to get the geometry right. I see from the pics you got the CF suspension installed, looks good.
 
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Reply #46 - 01/15/12 at 06:46:51
 
Ya, I think they'll be fine.  Looks like you can't buy a scattershield for AMC to T-10 anymore  Sad  I think I'll see about getting the Canton one, headers should fit and the extra 1" depth should clear the bellhousing.
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Reply #47 - 01/15/12 at 12:21:29
 
Unless you want to run with the front end jacked up like a gasser, I reckon you will smash those headers in no time.
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Reply #48 - 01/15/12 at 23:23:24
 
Sorry man but that fit Sucks... those collectors are doomed...... not gonna work on a lowered car buddy...... the cheapy hedmans tuck up much tighter than those and still hit everything..... dont know how much you lowered the front, but I hope it wasnt more than an inch... lips sealed Wait till that collector catches a manhole that is sticking up a lil more than usual....... cry TRUST ME, make a change... or mod them..... at the Absolute very Least, cut that 3 bolt collector flange off and go with a band clamp, at least it will hit and jump/scrape/bend versus catching and ripping.... ask me how I know buddy... been all around the world and back with the lowered humpster difficulties and got all the T-shirts (earned most of them the hard way)..... and when (not if) those collector flanges actually catch instead of scrape, the headers wont be the only thing that gets torn up..... and you will flat out not enjoy crusing around and having to worry about it all the time and not being able to follow cruises etc when they pull into parking lots etc that you cant without leaving your exhaust system on the highway.... = true street cars that are for looks as much as go with lowered stances need modified shortys...... period.... lowered humpsters and headers dont go well in the same sentence as street....... unless your willing to risk it, worry about it all the time (eventually deal with what happens) or get out your welder and learn some fabricating.......  
 
Saw the headers on Tims car and thought those would be at least "ok" but you obviously didnt get the same ones, you have any pics of your "lowered" car sitting on the ground??? what are you calling lowered?1", 2", 3", slammed?
 
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Reply #49 - 01/16/12 at 16:24:11
 
Hey Cappy, sounds like a hot topic for ya and I agree with you...I dropped the car on its wheels and even though my suspension isn't completely adjusted and I only had the block and heads in, they sit way too low.  The headers are so well made it'll be a shame to cut em up, but as usual in Canada I'm stuck with anything that is special ordered.  I should be able to raise them about 2" if I also change out the collector to a ball and socket style...
 
Oh well, winter finally hit this weekend so I can always use the distraction...
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Reply #50 - 01/16/12 at 16:41:41
 
Hot Topic... lol... nah....... just dont wanna see you tear your ride up or lose the enjoyment of cruisin over something like headers on a street car.... shame they quit making the shortys....
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Reply #51 - 01/16/12 at 17:59:06
 
Ya, that bites they dropped the shorty's...though I suspect mine will become a set mediums!
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Reply #52 - 01/17/12 at 16:50:45
 
It really sucks that you have to modify these. If it helps any, I did find a new set of shortys on eBay.
Here's the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edelbrock-65863-Shorty-Headers-Jeep-FSJ-AMC-304-360-401- /300650168082?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4600257f12
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Reply #53 - 01/17/12 at 19:47:32
 
Those are not the shorties for a Humpster that part # is 65812 or 65813 depending on coating.
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Reply #54 - 01/17/12 at 21:26:28
 
Quote from humpster on 01/17/12 at 19:47:32:
Those are not the shorties for a Humpster that part # is 65812 or 65813 depending on coating.

  I thought they only had one style. sorry
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Reply #55 - 01/18/12 at 01:33:46
 
Thanks but I think my best option is to get them modified!
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Reply #56 - 01/24/12 at 17:23:57
 
What's the distance from the top of the collector to the floor?   Just curious how much they could be shortened without adding a heat shield or notching the floor.   The stiffer springs of the Control Freaks suspension should help.   The Milodon road race pan isn't as deep as stock, so makes it look worse.
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Reply #57 - 01/24/12 at 22:49:43
 
Would it help to use the Dougs headers for an automatic car and use a hydraulic clutch?
 
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Reply #58 - 01/25/12 at 01:33:25
 
Not sure how low they sit to the floor as i just popped the bare block and heads in and havent adjusted the CF suspension yet.  The collectors are about 2.5 to 3" from the floorboards but I plan on cutting them back and having a custom collector made that will reduce to a 2.5" ball socket flange so even if the headers are raised 2.5" there won't be a 3.5" collector melting the floor, just my 2.5" pipe with plenty of clearance.
 
Unfortunately the headers cant be returned so if I bought the D103's I may be stuck with two sets that aren't satisfactory.
 
I ordered the Canton 15-555 (or is it 15-554) pan which should have clearance for the headers and the oil drain should work.  I believe Milodon is looking into the issue I had and will probably modify their unit.
 
When I get a chance I'll post some pics of how nice the head flange ports are...there was a post with some Hooker super comps for sale on the other forum and the ports look like someone made a half hearted attempt to turn a rectangular port into a dog leg, not sure if it came that way from Hooker but if so...ugh.
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Reply #59 - 01/28/12 at 02:28:17
 
FYI, here is how the Doug's D104 flange looks, fit was nice and they easily cleared the Edelbrock heads...just have to shave a red one off the flange to clear the ARP bolts:

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