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05/29/12 at 22:51:35
 
 I brought the car home over the weekend. Car was as described, it's a 40 year old car with 100k on it, it needs some work.
 
  I like the stance with the 15's on the rear and the air shocks pumped up.
 
  Of the pictures I saw before I bought it, the pictures of the top had me a little concerned, I saw what looked like vinyl top seams opening up, but in odd spots. I was wondering what was going on there. When I started picking at them, I found that someone had removed the vinyl top, ground it down to bare metal, and covered the top with sheets of fiberglass. I've got to say, I'll bet at the time it looked real nice, I was kind of impressed.

 Then I started digging further.

Yeah, It's pretty bad. Best thing would be to get a replacement roof. Anybody got one? If I have to, I can fix this, but I'm not looking forward to it.
 
 I was hoping I might get it driveable so as to go to a couple of cruise nights, but I've got other work in front of it. I might make that goal this fall, otherwise I'll have it driveable for next year. My 73 AMX needs to be finished before it gets a full rebuild.
 
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Reply #1 - 05/30/12 at 01:09:21
 
undecided  darn dave- im so sorry- if i had ANY idea of that i would have posted it-  let me look around for a roof section
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Reply #2 - 05/30/12 at 03:42:57
 
God I hate rust! Lived with it most of my life. N.H. born and raised. You really have your work cut out for you. Good Luck!  If all else fails, (suggestion) build a custom roadster out of it! Seriosly Good luck. Keep the pics coming.
 
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Reply #3 - 05/30/12 at 08:52:22
 
Quote from AmcKidd on 05/30/12 at 01:09:21:
undecided  darn dave- im so sorry- if i had ANY idea of that i would have posted it-  let me look around for a roof section

Dennis,
  It's not your fault. You couldn't have known without having peeled off the roof covering. I should have asked about the roof as well. If you could find a roof that would be very helpful, otherwise it is within my ability to fix it if I have to.
 
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Reply #4 - 05/31/12 at 06:22:24
 
Dan Curtis in AZ has a donor car they are using to restore another. Maybe you can get that roof for yours...
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Reply #5 - 06/02/12 at 01:20:46
 
Quote from 69BBB3904spAMX on 05/31/12 at 06:22:24:
Dan Curtis in AZ has a donor car they are using to restore another. Maybe you can get that roof for yours...

I posted in the wanted section of the other forum as well as here. I'll bet shipping is going to be impressive.
 
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Reply #6 - 06/04/12 at 09:24:31
 
That's weird it doing that for a California car??
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Reply #7 - 06/04/12 at 14:07:40
 
well, not if it spent time on the coast or in the bay area,  they get humidity rust, especially with a cloth top- kind of strange, they begin rusting from the top down....  i had a 68 AMX from Santa Rosa that had rot in the window areas, and one quarter sized hole in the floor- nowhere else
 
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Reply #8 - 06/04/12 at 18:19:49
 
People forget how big and how many different climates CA really is. We basically have most of the climates from around the country jammed into one state. So it really depends on what part of the state your in. Stuff on the coast will rust from salty air, cars that live in the Sierra Nevada mountains can get it from the roads, mostly the SoCal and valley cars stay relatively rust free. CA car doesn't necessarily mean no rust.
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Reply #10 - 06/06/12 at 15:02:25
 
Now you know why it was fiberglassed up! As long as you treat that rust so it's sealed off you can 'glass it again. Looks like they didn't treat or seal it first. Another hint -- get marine grade epoxy fiberglass instead of the polyester material sold for auto work. The marine stuff is a LOT tougher and weather resistant, but correspondingly more expensive. Would be worth it for something as exposed to the weather as a roof though. Something like this: http://www.mertons.com/Epoxy/epoxy_resins/about.html
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Reply #11 - 06/06/12 at 19:06:27
 
Nice to see these big cars!  
That roof looks bad  Sad but nice to hear you going to repair it and not just part out.
I'm glad some previous owner took the vinyl top out of mine in time. It only has some small rust holes.
Of course now I can put the vinyl back because the car wont see anymore bad weather Cool
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Reply #12 - 06/06/12 at 22:19:42
 
Quote from Frank Swygert on 06/06/12 at 15:02:25:
Now you know why it was fiberglassed up! As long as you treat that rust so it's sealed off you can 'glass it again. Looks like they didn't treat or seal it first. Another hint -- get marine grade epoxy fiberglass instead of the polyester material sold for auto work. The marine stuff is a LOT tougher and weather resistant, but correspondingly more expensive. Would be worth it for something as exposed to the weather as a roof though. Something like this: http://www.mertons.com/Epoxy/epoxy_resins/about.html

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  You're right, there are better grades of fiberglass resins then what's commonly used by hobbyists. Personally I'm not for repairing metal with 'glass unless it's a temporary fix to get by. I'm hoping to be able to pass my hobby cars down to my kids. I can patch the roof but will keep searching for a replacement roof first. I have time, as I have other cars in line ahead of this one.
 
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Reply #13 - 06/08/12 at 09:48:30
 
Quote from AmcKidd on 06/05/12 at 02:29:40:

 Only gAyMC forum members can acces that and I'll be danged I'fn I'm joining that shitefest. Oh and I figured Cali being a drier climate that rust wouldn't be an issue like that Ambo had. Thats a textbook rot job we'd see here in Florida.
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Reply #14 - 06/08/12 at 22:20:20
 
Quote from GreasedGremlin360 on 06/08/12 at 09:48:30:
Quote from AmcKidd on 06/05/12 at 02:29:40:

Only gAyMC forum members can acces that and I'll be danged I'fn I'm joining that shitefest. Oh and I figured Cali being a drier climate that rust wouldn't be an issue like that Ambo had. Thats a textbook rot job we'd see here in Florida.

Bart,
  I haven't looked at the car too hard yet, but in general it ain't bad, at least by North East standards. I've seen a few advertised on the internet lately, but they were repainted and you can't tell what's under the shiney paint. This car was repainted at one time as well, but long enough ago that if there was something wrong underneath there'd be some evidence. I'd say this car is far from being a rot box.
 
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